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Do you thrive on chaos? Or does it thrive on you?

Is there something about the entrepreneurial journey that attracts the tormented soul? Or is it the journey of small business itself that causes the discord inside us?

I’m not sure I know the answer, but one thing that seems abundantly clear to me is that if we don’t tame the chaos within, it amplifies itself on the outside.

Our frantic and reactive energy rubs off on the people we lead.

Our scarcity mindset causes us to push, drive, and sell at a rate that seemingly no one can keep up with.

Our incredibly high standards for ourselves and our team exhaust us, as nothing is ever good enough.

My point is this: Chaotic leadership doesn’t scale.

If you’re in a chapter of your growth journey where you’re:
- tired (like… REALLY tired �)
- wondering why you started this thing in the first place �‍♂️
- dealing with ambient anxiety you can’t quite put your finger on �
- or your personal relationships are suffering due to the demands of your business…

… then this episode is for you

Jon DeWaal is the founder of Liminal Space, an organization dedicated to helping leaders thrive as they navigate the intensity of organizational, professional, and personal change.

He’s also the personal coach to one of our co-founders, Danny Kerr, who insisted we have him on, and you’ll see why…

00:00 - Intro
02:40 - "I Thrive on Chaos"
04:58 - What is internal chaos?
12:26 - Negative downstream effects
20:33 - Common Chaos Patterns
39:37 - Unlearning the patterns
46:50 - Rhythms, Rituals & Readings
01:08:12 - What do we stand to gain?

To find more about Jon and Liminal Space visit: https://www.inaliminalspace.org/

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